# 10 most dangerous vehicles **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 30, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844 "2023-01-30T06:56:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/1 "2023-01-30T06:56:25Z")
### #1. Ford F-Series (F-150, F-250, F-350) - Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 10,845 ### #2. Chevrolet Silverado - Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 7,718 ### #3. Honda Accord – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 5,079 ### #4. Toyota Camry – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 4,734 ### #5. RAM Pickup (1500, 2500, and 3500) – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 5,897 ### #6. Honda Civic – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 3,497 ### #7. Toyota Corolla – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 3,430 ### #8. Ford Explorer – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 3,332 ### #9. Nissan Altima – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 3,267 ### #10. GMC Sierra – Total Fatal Crashes (2014-2018): 3,245 [https://www.krqe.com/news-resources/ranking/the-10-most-dangerous-cars-in-the-us/](https://www.krqe.com/news-resources/ranking/the-10-most-dangerous-cars-in-the-us/) ---
**Author:** ![oldtimer-11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e79b87/32.png) [@oldtimer-11](https://community.cartalk.com/u/oldtimer-11)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:24am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/2 "2023-01-30T09:24:10Z")
What a coincidence, the more vehicles you sell, the more fatal crashes you have. Unless you post crashes per vehicle mile, it is meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 10:20am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/3 "2023-01-30T10:20:49Z")
Don’t tell @TheWonderful90s that 3 of the top 5 are large heavy vehicles. But then again maybe they only hit even larger vehicles, or trains. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Purebred](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/purebred/32/46796_2.png) [@Purebred](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Purebred)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/4 "2023-01-30T12:30:50Z")
Since the Chevy and GMC are the same truck, total makes them more dangerous☹️ As stated above fatalities per mile means much more. ---
**Author:** ![Rod-Knox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Rod-Knox](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Rod-Knox)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/5 "2023-01-30T13:07:24Z")
Check out this effort to determine the causes of fatal crashes in pickups. As a Mississippian I feel certain the report is accurate. > **[NTSB Black Box](https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/22519-ntsb-black-box/)** > > Kinda old, but funny. ------------- The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had covertly funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years, whereby the auto makers were installing black boxes in four-wheel... ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/6 "2023-01-30T13:16:31Z")
Big truck owners are compensating for physical shortcomings. Happens in Texas, Alabama and other southern states. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/7 "2023-01-30T13:43:11Z")
The ValuePenguin reference begins to explore the deaths per unit sold, but they were a bit lazy. They show deaths in each vehicle model between 2014 and 2018 but only show units sold in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/8 "2023-01-30T13:55:42Z")
This is a totally worthless statistic. If I manufactured car and 500 of the 1000 of them sold crashed…it wouldn’t make this list. Anyone with an IQ can see that a 50% car crash rate would be the highest crash rate of any vehicle in the history of automobiles. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/9 "2023-01-30T13:57:23Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Big truck owners are compensating for physical shortcomings. > Happens in Texas, Alabama and other southern states. Everyone I know who owns a large pickup truck is under 5’8" and weighs less than 150lbs. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/10 "2023-01-30T14:15:01Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Big truck owners are compensating for physical shortcomings This simply an insult created by people who dislike pickups and large SUVs. Truck owners don’t care what you think. ---
**Author:** ![dhallis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@dhallis](https://community.cartalk.com/u/dhallis)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/11 "2023-01-30T17:12:55Z")
Worthless statistic. Looks like a list of the best selling vehicles. Where is crash per miles driven data??? ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/12 "2023-01-30T17:27:09Z")
> [@oldtimer-11](#): > > What a coincidence, the more vehicles you sell, the more fatal crashes you have. > > Unless you post crashes per vehicle mile, it is meaningless. Thanks for bringing everyone’s attention to the obvious useless ness of the statistic! Here is another source of statistics from the IIHS that is also somewhat useless in its own way. It’s only useful to an insurance company that doesn’t know anything about driver behavior. If you buy a Corvette and you’re 19 years old, we think you’re going to crash is how the insurance industry works. It doesn’t take in to account miles traveled, seat belt use, or driver behavior. This is why the Corvette is usually near the top of this list. Also, don’t overlook the confidence limits, which is a very wide range. The number that they give in between that range is not always better than a guess. Notice how in this data that the 4 wheel drive versions of the same trucks have higher fatalities. I believe this has purely to do with driver behavior > **[Driver death rates by make and model](https://www.iihs.org/ratings/driver-death-rates-by-make-and-model)** > > One way to compare the relative safety of vehicles is to look at driver death rates. ---
**Author:** ![Renegade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Renegade](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Renegade)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/13 "2023-01-30T17:42:10Z")
> [@Cavell](#): > > Happens in Texas, Alabama and other southern states. Why the insulting remark about the south? ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/14 "2023-01-30T17:47:05Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > Thanks for bringing everyone’s attention to the obvious useless ness of the statistic! Take a math class. Statistics are EXTREMELY useful. It can be abused by people who don’t know what they are doing. But statistics is heavily used by business and manufacturing. Used correctly it can be an extremely effective tool. I’ve worked on several statistical models that have accurately predicted factual results. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/15 "2023-01-30T17:49:34Z")
I flagged your post as spam, since it is a bit of a personal attack in response to something that I didn’t write, and it contributes nothing of value to the conversation. I doubt anything will happen, by it’s worth a try. ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/16 "2023-01-30T18:06:14Z")
Anything that PROVES you don’t know what you’re talking about is personal attack. Trust me…You’ve lost all credibility in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![VOLVO-V70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8e8cbc/32.png) [@VOLVO-V70](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VOLVO-V70)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/17 "2023-01-30T18:10:27Z")
> [@TheWonderful90s](#): > > I flagged your post as spam You don’t even know what Spam is . Just adds to the list of things you don’t know . ---
**Author:** ![MikeInNH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a587f6/32.png) [@MikeInNH](https://community.cartalk.com/u/MikeInNH)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/18 "2023-01-30T18:13:04Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > Just adds to the list of things you don’t know . I’m beyond a list with him. We’re now into complex multi-sheet spreadsheet. It’s tough to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![asemaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@asemaster](https://community.cartalk.com/u/asemaster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/19 "2023-01-30T19:07:35Z")
> [@Rod-Knox](#): > > As a Mississippian I feel certain the report is accurate. Hey just the other day I was thinking that I hadn’t seen Rod-Knox post here for a while. Glad you’re still around! ---
**Author:** ![PvtPublic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/pvtpublic/32/13089_2.png) [@PvtPublic](https://community.cartalk.com/u/PvtPublic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844/20 "2023-01-30T19:23:29Z")
> [@VOLVO-V70](#): > > You don’t even know what Spam is I do, I do. It’s delicious. [Next page](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-most-dangerous-vehicles/188844.md?page=2)