# 10 minute EV charging is possible **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818 "2024-04-30T12:37:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VDCdriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/vdcdriver/32/30_2.png) [@VDCdriver](https://community.cartalk.com/u/VDCdriver)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/1 "2024-04-30T12:37:24Z")
… with newly-developed _Silicon-Dominant_ batteries and XFC charging technology: > **[Polestar 5 prototype charges from 10% to 80% in 10 minutes - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2024/04/29/polestar-5-prototype-charges-from-10-to-80-in-10-minutes/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ2ivVqUEKudKmC_tfo0vnh4ZY-DwiDgWd86OnqhV6cT5TMvRo4QCbeOky0JW4_DXEQmGKsGUhMFLh3nSjApnnjkKnNW7ffY558b-PvNGorGGmFSEucCYO-UYPSNe7TPqiSsAfkVdtNNM-0bi1P02JplHQ9ILiscJBZPH-Lg8FSn)** > > Polestar managed to charge one of its electric prototypes from 10% to 80% in about 10 minutes thanks to new technology. ---
**Author:** ![Mustangman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/mustangman/32/44130_2.png) [@Mustangman](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Mustangman)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/2 "2024-04-30T13:18:21Z")
A big step forward in charging technology… Now imagine a Buc-ees with 100 charge points and cars at half of them… 340 kilowatts surging into each car drawing about 570 amps with a 440 volt 3-phase supply _each_ for a total 28,500 amp draw… Or a smaller neighborhood station with 12 charge points for a 6840 amp draw assuming they have access to industrial sized power supplies… Clearly there are more problems to solve. ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/3 "2024-04-30T13:28:14Z")
And it uses all the electricity available to 8 regular homes with 200 Amp service to do this! ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/4 "2024-04-30T15:16:44Z")
Who needs to charge that fast at home? It’s easy to charge over night at home. This charger is meant for charging on the go, like commuting or traveling. I wonder what the special battery for this unique Polestar 5 is. The one slated for the car when released is lithium ion, but it isn’t clear how similar the special battery for quick charging is. ---
**Author:** ![TwinTurbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@TwinTurbo](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TwinTurbo)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/5 "2024-04-30T15:43:55Z")
Silicon versus graphite allows significant increase in lithium density. See here- > **[65897d2745fe275734dc9436\_StoreDot%20technology%20overview\_Dec2023.pdf](https://assets-global.website-files.com/61a4d0d3a3e7bed7d7539c55/65897d2745fe275734dc9436_StoreDot%20technology%20overview_Dec2023.pdf)** > [@jtsanders](#): > > The one slated for the car when released is lithium ion, but it isn’t clear how similar the special battery for quick charging is The way I read it the Polestar was just used to demonstrate the battery capability at a practical application level versus a bench test thereby adding to the credibility of the results obtained. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/6 "2024-04-30T17:31:23Z")
Thanks for the brochure. I hope it works out. ---
**Author:** ![Cavell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/cavell/32/43396_2.png) [@Cavell](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Cavell)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/7 "2024-04-30T17:50:15Z")
Like real genius “scientist” comments. We design things. We don’t make infrastructure decisions. An 8 gas pump station is ok to fill 8 cars at once. Or 16 or 24. Buc-ees does it ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/8 "2024-04-30T18:46:57Z")
So is Cali (as an example) going to have to have more black outs in order for all these EV’s to be charged? asking for a friend… Heck it was the year before that we had a rolling black out for a day, so if we don’t have enough electrical juice to keep the lights on, how are we going to be able to keep the lights on and juice up the EV’s?.. ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/9 "2024-04-30T21:57:05Z")
> [@davesmopar](#): > > So is Cali (as an example) going to have to have more black outs in order for all these EV’s to be charged? The quick answer is no. Charging will mostly occur overnight when electricity use is lower than during the day. ---
**Author:** ![Barkydog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/barkydog/32/2470_2.png) [@Barkydog](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Barkydog)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/10 "2024-04-30T22:01:30Z")
Come a long way from the olden days! [Redirecting...](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=241535677216355) ---
**Author:** ![TheWonderful90s](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/thewonderful90s/32/29584_2.png) [@TheWonderful90s](https://community.cartalk.com/u/TheWonderful90s)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/10-minute-ev-charging-is-possible/194818/11 "2024-05-01T15:11:58Z")
> [@jtsanders](#): > > Charging will mostly occur overnight when electricity use is lower than during the day. When California imports non green energy? Peak California production is around noon, at which time they pay the other States to take their extra electricity. They pay them to be green.