# 04 pilot master window switch going bad **URL:** \ **Category:** Maintenance/Repairs\ **Tags:** pilot, honda\ **Created:** [February 10, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059 "2025-02-10T03:27:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:27am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/1 "2025-02-10T03:27:18Z")
Master window switch stopped working. No windows up or down. I replaced it with a used one… worked for less than 24 hours and stopped working as well. What could be killing the switch? Any insight? Thanks, Bill ---
**Author:** ![cigroller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@cigroller](https://community.cartalk.com/u/cigroller)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/2 "2025-02-10T03:41:13Z")
> [@Ravizzaw\_192792](#): > > What could be killing the switch? Possibly too much amp draw from a failing motor. Do you have a way to measure the amp draw? ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/4 "2025-02-10T03:46:08Z")
Yessir, I’ve got a multimeter but not sure how to check ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/5 "2025-02-10T03:52:41Z")
Try operating the window switch while slowly opening and closing the door. If at any point the switch works, it points to a problem with the wires that run between the body and the door. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/1/3/132b3e0edf94eeca52aee9b3d775a3a64a23f9de.jpeg) Tester ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/6 "2025-02-10T03:55:44Z")
I’ll give it a shot in the morning and hey back to you ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:07am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/7 "2025-02-10T04:07:05Z")
Is it only the master switch that doesn’t work? The other three work? ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:03am UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/8 "2025-02-10T05:03:53Z")
Nothing works when the switch goes out, all windows and mirrors ---
**Author:** ![texases](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/texases/32/862_2.png) [@texases](https://community.cartalk.com/u/texases)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/9 "2025-02-10T12:26:54Z")
Them I’m with @Tester - sounds more like a wiring problem. ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/10 "2025-02-10T13:52:11Z")
You can also do a wiggle test on the wires going to the switch… But remember, you installed a used switch that might have already been about to fail also… You can also check for power at the switch to make sure it is there or not… ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/11 "2025-02-10T14:09:58Z")
Yeah, unfortunately i can only find used switches. Also, no other switches on the other doors works when the master goes out ---
**Author:** ![davesmopar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/davesmopar/32/41750_2.png) [@davesmopar](https://community.cartalk.com/u/davesmopar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/12 "2025-02-10T16:06:12Z")
Might have a bad ground wire… ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/13 "2025-02-10T16:20:48Z")
I hands good 12v into the switch… ---
**Author:** ![jtsanders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@jtsanders](https://community.cartalk.com/u/jtsanders)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/14 "2025-02-10T20:20:59Z")
Wiggle the wires in the door while making the voltage measurement and see if it stays at 12v. If it fluctuates you may have a wiring issue. ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/15 "2025-02-10T20:27:32Z")
It stays 12v ---
**Author:** ![Tester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/user_avatar/community.cartalk.com/tester/32/15976_2.png) [@Tester](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Tester)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/16 "2025-02-10T21:26:06Z")
You may be looking at a bad power window control unit. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/cartalk/original/3X/2/3/23a1b9aac3bd4c3b538c22075e11d63e6f3750ec.jpeg "How to Install Power Window Control Unit 03-08 Honda Pilot") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eMXqRI8Z14) Tester ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/17 "2025-02-10T21:29:32Z")
That’s what i figured… ordered one an hour ago actually ---
**Author:** ![Ravizzaw\_192792](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Ravizzaw\_192792](https://community.cartalk.com/u/Ravizzaw_192792)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.cartalk.com/t/04-pilot-master-window-switch-going-bad/199059/18 "2025-02-10T21:31:09Z")
When i push the drivers window button you can here the control unit clicking… but no other switch in the car does anything