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Honda won't shift out of park

My daughter's 2004 Honda Accord would not shift out of park. After reading the manual, we got the shift overlock to release and she was able to drive to the dealer who suggested a new solenoid was the cure.



After installing the solenoid, the problem persisted. The dealer offered to apply the cost of the solenoid against the second diagnosis, an $800 throttle body. Can this be right????
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  • edited September 2008
    If I had an 04 Accord I would also have the factory wiring diagrams for it & could tell you for sure, but typically the brake light switch is wired to the brake lights and to the shift lock solenoid.

    Step on the brake and voltage to the solenoid releases the shift lock.

    Are the brake lights working?

    Replace the throttle body to solve this problem?????

    I'd love to hear the dealers reasoning for this.

    Is there a GOOD independant repair shop in your area? Thats where i'd take it.
  • edited September 2008
    can I see the bill please,because you have something wrong ,or missing in this little word twist.

    thanks
  • edited September 2008
    most likely a brake shift interlock switch mount at /on the brake light switch. Also there is a real good chance you have misinterpreted some info. A throttle body for this? No way.
  • edited September 2008
    Start with the least expensive things. Check the transmission fluid level. Adjust or replace the brake interlock switch, which is under the dashboard, and contacts the brake pedal.

    Based on the age of the car, I'll bet the brake interlock switch is the culprit. It's probably a $20 fix.

    Throttle body? No way!

  • edited September 2008
    Thanks for all the help. I spoke with the service manager today and found out that the first thing they did was try the brake light switch, which was not the culprit. They ordered the solenoid which took a week to get and this was, in fact, NOT the solution. The service manager now says that his most experienced tech, with 25 years on the job, suggests a new throttle body, which is very unusual. The car is a 2003, not a 2004, with 56k on it, and the service manager says it's strange for a throttle body to go bad with such little mileage. The part is $900. I asked for him to involve the zone rep, and we'll see if Honda will participate in the cost of this repair.
  • edited September 2008

    The throttle body may need to be replaced, but I fail to see a connection between that situation and the inability to shift out of "Park".

    There is still either a mis-communication between the OP and the service manager, or the service manager is truly interested in lightening the OP's wallet. I also question whether a Honda dealer would need a week to obtain a *genuine* Honda solenoid. Something, or perhaps several things, are not right here.

  • edited September 2008
    I am the original poster, and it's certainly possible that there is a communication problem between the dealer and me, but hopefully we'll find out by Tuesday what the zone rep has to say. I will post the resolution on this thread. Thanks to all for their comments.
  • edited September 2008
    I am the original poster and I just heard from the dealer. The zone rep has agreed to replace the throttle body at no charge for the part. Labor should be about 1 hour, which my daughter will pay for. All in all, I think not a bad deal.
  • edited September 2008
    There is a service bulletin on this. The PCM needs to relearn the relative throttle position. Has there been any work done to it where the battery had been disconnected??


    transman
  • edited September 2008
    The throttle body may be defective; but, there is NO connection with the gear shift moving from reverse.This isn't apples and oranges; it's apples and potatoes.
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